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it was very clear that john paul ii enjoyed every minute of payp paypalcy. i think benedict has seen it as a significant burden to carry and he's kaifred it with decency but he's had a different feeling toward the office. >> what is the state of the catholic church these days? >> it depends where you look nchl some places it's very healthy and growing. in other places it's declining in numbers and suffering financially. so it's a very mixed script that the new pope will face and there are divisions within the church between liberals and conservatives as there always are. sometimes they've been exacerbated in recent years. >> we now want to return to allen pizzey who is live in rome. i guess this sets up a conclave in mid-march to choose a new pope, right. >> reporter: yes, he does. he said he's resigning on february 28th. there are 100 cardinals under the age of 80 who are technically eligible to vote in the conclave. there may be a couple more than that. they're in kind of a transition period. what happens is the cardinals gather from around the world in ro
it was very clear that john paul ii enjoyed every minute of payp paypalcy. i think benedict has seen it as a significant burden to carry and he's kaifred it with decency but he's had a different feeling toward the office. >> what is the state of the catholic church these days? >> it depends where you look nchl some places it's very healthy and growing. in other places it's declining in numbers and suffering financially. so it's a very mixed script that the new pope will face and...
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the cardinal from argentina who is with the chief of staff under john paul ii, a very good manager. this is all sound and fury signifying nothing until those 117 cardinals who are under 80 and have the right to vote for the next pope get here to rome, roll up their sleeves, and get to work. >> is that done in the same ways we've seen in years past after the pope has died, the white smoke, the black smoke, all of that? >> it will be very shortly from now that they'll get the process ready. they'll have to put in a fake floor like they did last time to put in jamming devices that will prohibit anyone from eavesdropping electronically what is going on in the sistine chapel. also, they'll install a stove and prepare the chemical cartridges that will turn the black smoke into white smoke when they elect the pope. is he referred to as the former pope? where will he live, what will he do? >> he's got another month on the job, so we're presuming he's going to carry out his regular calendar. this week, of course, features ash wednesday, the beginning of lent for catholics. we presume he'll d
the cardinal from argentina who is with the chief of staff under john paul ii, a very good manager. this is all sound and fury signifying nothing until those 117 cardinals who are under 80 and have the right to vote for the next pope get here to rome, roll up their sleeves, and get to work. >> is that done in the same ways we've seen in years past after the pope has died, the white smoke, the black smoke, all of that? >> it will be very shortly from now that they'll get the process...
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when we were here in 2005, for the death of john paul ii, we had been hearing for years about child sex abuse. for a long time they thought it was just an american problem that was fuel bid the american media. you have seen a great change in attitude, i think from 2005 to 2013. they know there are problems in the church, they know they must be addressed and you can't just blame it on the media anymore. they have to take responsibility because they are losing particularly in western europe, an the u.s., they are losing the core of their church and they need to get it back and they need to find a man who can communicate to the younger generation, i spoke to cardinal donald whirl yesterday as the archbishop of washington, d.c., who said we need to find someone who can package our message, repackage our message to make it resonate with younger catholics today and that's going to be a big challenge. >> pope benedict has spoken just yesterday about the difficulties. he said there were many good days of sunshine, but stormy waters sometimes as if god were sleeping and certainly the sex abuse c
when we were here in 2005, for the death of john paul ii, we had been hearing for years about child sex abuse. for a long time they thought it was just an american problem that was fuel bid the american media. you have seen a great change in attitude, i think from 2005 to 2013. they know there are problems in the church, they know they must be addressed and you can't just blame it on the media anymore. they have to take responsibility because they are losing particularly in western europe, an...
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he listened to john paul. he's been well aware of his own, the fragility of his health for a while. >> cardinal dolan continues to amaze me as how reasoned he sounds and how remarkable he pulls all the factors together. >> there are some 117, i think it is, cardinals under the age of 80 who will vote in the new conclave, but only 11 of them are american. that's why people say cardinal dolan maybe doesn't have a shot at becoming the next pope unless he garnered international support. >> it would be interesting to watch. earlier, we spoke with the dean of georgetown college and theology professor at georgetown university. he is an expert on catholicism and on pope benedict. is it possible they will look to a younger pope because of this? >> yes, anything is possible. i think he was elected at a fairly advanced age, and people thought it would be a short papacy. i predicted at the time it would be at least ten years. it's close. when you choose a younger pope however, you have to remember it is a lifetime appoint
he listened to john paul. he's been well aware of his own, the fragility of his health for a while. >> cardinal dolan continues to amaze me as how reasoned he sounds and how remarkable he pulls all the factors together. >> there are some 117, i think it is, cardinals under the age of 80 who will vote in the new conclave, but only 11 of them are american. that's why people say cardinal dolan maybe doesn't have a shot at becoming the next pope unless he garnered international support....
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although, many of us remember the pictures of john paul -- pope john paul ii who was extremely old and ill when he died. the supposition here is that pope benedict doesn't want to see himself in the same position we saw pope john paul ii. there may be some reasons regarding pope benedict's health that we are aware of at this time. but certainly we have seen it pulled benedick grow increasingly tired -- pope benedick xvi grow increasingly tired. we have seen him use a way of moving up the basilica of a moving platform because he was too tired during those ceremonies to actually walk down the i yelled up to the altar. -- down the aise up to the altar. these all decisions that were taken not to tire the pope particularly over christmas. which is one of the busiest times in the pope's schedule. easter is coming up and that is also a very busy time for pope benedict. he has obviously decided this is too much of a heavy schedule for him. and he will in fact resign, as a said, on february 28. it remains to be seen what may happen after that and who will be pulled for the very important easter
although, many of us remember the pictures of john paul -- pope john paul ii who was extremely old and ill when he died. the supposition here is that pope benedict doesn't want to see himself in the same position we saw pope john paul ii. there may be some reasons regarding pope benedict's health that we are aware of at this time. but certainly we have seen it pulled benedick grow increasingly tired -- pope benedick xvi grow increasingly tired. we have seen him use a way of moving up the...
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. >> the 85-year-old took over the role back in 2005 following the death of pope john paul ii. this is pretty incredible because this has not happened in 600 years. the last time a pope stepped down was back in 1415. so this is certainly something that we don't see often happening with the catholic church. but the pope says he is just too tired to carry on with his papal duties. >> we want to take a live look at what's going on in italy. this is a statement coming out of the vatican. we would take the sound live for you. however, it's coming in through italian so this has not been translated yet. you'll probably see the translation of this video, megan, coming up a little later on "good morning america." >>> we do want to let you know they're going to cover that story. pope benedict xvi calling his choice, quote, a decision of great importance for the life of the church, unquote. so we will be hearing more about this as the morning goes along. we do want to remind you that you can follow any of the updates of the story with us through twitter along with any breaking news. all y
. >> the 85-year-old took over the role back in 2005 following the death of pope john paul ii. this is pretty incredible because this has not happened in 600 years. the last time a pope stepped down was back in 1415. so this is certainly something that we don't see often happening with the catholic church. but the pope says he is just too tired to carry on with his papal duties. >> we want to take a live look at what's going on in italy. this is a statement coming out of the...
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ratzinger, was very keenly aware of what happened to pope john paul ii. he talked to people about how his demise seemed somewhat of a dishonorable end to his papacy. he had in his mind already what type of glorious exit, to use the phrase, he may want in store for him. let's get some perspective as to what is coming out of the vatican as to why this is happening, what it means. john allen, our senior vatican analyst, joins us now. what do we know, john? >> reporter: what we know is that we are living through a day of enormous shock here in rome. not so much the pope benedict xvi chose to resign. he signaled two years ago that he would be open to doing that, but the fact that we had absolutely no indication this was coming today. precisely because of that, therefore, there are some enormous unanswered questions about how all of this is going to play out. i suppose the biggest questions would be, "a," what will the role of a retired pope be? will he continue to play any kind of public role? will he continue to exercise any influence on the future direction
ratzinger, was very keenly aware of what happened to pope john paul ii. he talked to people about how his demise seemed somewhat of a dishonorable end to his papacy. he had in his mind already what type of glorious exit, to use the phrase, he may want in store for him. let's get some perspective as to what is coming out of the vatican as to why this is happening, what it means. john allen, our senior vatican analyst, joins us now. what do we know, john? >> reporter: what we know is that...
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we've become accustomed to it with john paul and with benedict. now it's pretty much expected of him. i think that's right what liz said about him, the father quality of the pope. that's a great advantage to have. >> and as you also look at him -- and he looks like an 85-year-old man, and you realize the stress that must have been on him, certainly in the run-up to this and the decision that he finally decided to make. but just the wear and tear of preparing. we know that yesterday he had something of a down day. there's packing to be done. there are papers to be gone through. there are decisions to be made. and he will be going to castel gandolfo, which is the summer residence of the pope, where he will stay until a more permanent residence is finished. they have been doing renovations on the old monastery on the grounds of the vatican. he's someone, liz, who really -- it's not a job that he can go home at 5:00, and he puts his little time card in, and it ends. this is a man who for the last eight years, when most people would want to be retiring
we've become accustomed to it with john paul and with benedict. now it's pretty much expected of him. i think that's right what liz said about him, the father quality of the pope. that's a great advantage to have. >> and as you also look at him -- and he looks like an 85-year-old man, and you realize the stress that must have been on him, certainly in the run-up to this and the decision that he finally decided to make. but just the wear and tear of preparing. we know that yesterday he had...
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but with john paul ii, there years people thought any minute we have to plan for the future. they are talking about a short amount of time. maybe it will be just weeks before they have a new gathering of all of the cardinals in order to vote in a new pope. but all the maneuvering that had been going on before, all that kind of thing, there does not seem to be a front runner of the moment. it really is wide open. >> thank you very much for coming in. thank you. stay with us on bbc world news. more on our breaking news. pope benedict xvi is to resign at the end of the month. the official in charge of india 's massive religious festival has announced he will resign the day after a stampede killed at least 36 people. he said he took a moral responsibility for the deaths of which happened when a foot bridge collapsed at a railway station. most of the victims are said to be women. some 30 million programs have been bathing in the river. our correspondent is there. >> the streets are overflowing -- overflowing with people. hindu children trying to return home. you can see how it eve
but with john paul ii, there years people thought any minute we have to plan for the future. they are talking about a short amount of time. maybe it will be just weeks before they have a new gathering of all of the cardinals in order to vote in a new pope. but all the maneuvering that had been going on before, all that kind of thing, there does not seem to be a front runner of the moment. it really is wide open. >> thank you very much for coming in. thank you. stay with us on bbc world...
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it was very difficult to imagine another pope after pope john paul. they needed somebody to be different. i think he have the strength and the character to do that. >> he certainly have the intellect. the catholic church is declining in numbers in europe and america. it is growing in africa and latin america. is it time for a pontiff from outside europe? >> it is certainly possible. just before being elected pope, he thought that the time might be drawing close for a pulp from another part of the world. i would say possible. there are strong european candidates. the college of cardenals is an immense group of talent. there are strong candidates from south america, africa, and the far east. pope benedict has given us a great legacy of courage preaching the gospel. just last week he was speaking at one of the seminary's in rome. he warned students against a false optimism. the idea that everything is right with the church. he said, no, there is sin. he also warned against a false pessimism, that christianity is dying. he said that the church is always r
it was very difficult to imagine another pope after pope john paul. they needed somebody to be different. i think he have the strength and the character to do that. >> he certainly have the intellect. the catholic church is declining in numbers in europe and america. it is growing in africa and latin america. is it time for a pontiff from outside europe? >> it is certainly possible. just before being elected pope, he thought that the time might be drawing close for a pulp from...
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he was 5 years old, older now than when his predecessor pope john paul passed away. that is to be taken into consideration. some of the are cardinals here in the united states are reacting. we heard from cardinal timothy dolan in new york, he was elevated to that office by pope benedict. let's hear what he had to say. >> i would presume his esteem for the office as the successor of st. peter and the chief pastor of the (audio difficulty) still to come when 9news continues we will have new developments in the search for a rogue california cop accused of killing outside a wave >>> a 14-year-old is being charged as an adult in the murder of his seven-month-old sister. police say baby larissa was left from the care of her brother jonathan a aguilera. the teenager admitted covering her nose and her mouth in order to stop her from crying. he is due in court for a bond hearing this afternoon. >>> a $11 million reward is now being offered for help to capture a former los angeles police officer wanted for murder. christopher dorner is accused of killing three people to avenge
he was 5 years old, older now than when his predecessor pope john paul passed away. that is to be taken into consideration. some of the are cardinals here in the united states are reacting. we heard from cardinal timothy dolan in new york, he was elevated to that office by pope benedict. let's hear what he had to say. >> i would presume his esteem for the office as the successor of st. peter and the chief pastor of the (audio difficulty) still to come when 9news continues we will have new...
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. >> seeing a german succeed pope john paul ii was a victory for our country. in benedick's ministry, they combine high philosophical teaching with a straight forward manner of speaking and humanitarian kindness. chancellor merkel also commented on benedict's decision expressing understanding or his motivations. she praised him as saying that, as pope, he committed himself to interfaith dialogue. >> restrengthen the ties to the eastern orthodox churches. he reached out to jews and muslims. . xvi is and will remain one of the greatest religious figures of our time. >> i cannot imagine this. a pope is elected to serve until the end of his life. it is a decision that will perhaps make room for younger generation to take office. >> for the most part, his move received strong support from the german capital. >> for more, we're joined now by our religious affairs correspondent. john, you have and our correspondent during the entire time of his role. did the news, as a surprise? >> not entirely, sabrina. 10 years ago, he said in public that he thought it was appropria
. >> seeing a german succeed pope john paul ii was a victory for our country. in benedick's ministry, they combine high philosophical teaching with a straight forward manner of speaking and humanitarian kindness. chancellor merkel also commented on benedict's decision expressing understanding or his motivations. she praised him as saying that, as pope, he committed himself to interfaith dialogue. >> restrengthen the ties to the eastern orthodox churches. he reached out to jews and...
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john paul ii had a great impact on the church. in some ways the most important figure of the 20th century. it was because his youth and energy permitted him to be pope for such a long time. it would be a good thing. on the other hand , it's a really big job. think of being the president only on steroids and the number of people you have to be concerned with. so it takes a lot of wisdom and experience to do that well. >> well, we thank you for your insight this morning, sir. we appreciate it. john garvey, president of catholic university joining us on the phone. we'll talk to you in the days ahead. >> thank you, tony and allison. >> pope benedict xvi has announced this morning he will be stepping down. he will resign his position affective february 28th. >> all right. we of course will be following that throughout the morning. big breaking news there. >>> in the meantime, have we forgotten the big story to the north? >> i have a relative up in boston. she hasn't had power since friday. 30 inches of snow on the ground. >> that's the
john paul ii had a great impact on the church. in some ways the most important figure of the 20th century. it was because his youth and energy permitted him to be pope for such a long time. it would be a good thing. on the other hand , it's a really big job. think of being the president only on steroids and the number of people you have to be concerned with. so it takes a lot of wisdom and experience to do that well. >> well, we thank you for your insight this morning, sir. we appreciate...
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paul 7. it will be about who they want to see in that position. they will crumbly be very similar to the ideas. tavis: this is a very big issue, but because this program is viewed nationally and internationally, for that matter, and because the pope is an international icon, this local story has become a national story because of the implications. i had no idea that cardinal mahony, who was in charge of the l.a. archdioceses, that cardinal, who is no longer in that position, but apparently still retains a vote for the next pope, so, ok. i get the part that once a cardinal, you still get a chance to vote for the next pope. i get back. what was stunning to me is that he gets to retain that vote when he is under a cloud of suspicion for payoffs and other stuff, allegedly, when he was in charge of the archdiocese's around the sex scandal issue, and stuff is coming out more and more every day about what he knew and what he did and what they try to hide, etc., etc., and with all respect to that car
paul 7. it will be about who they want to see in that position. they will crumbly be very similar to the ideas. tavis: this is a very big issue, but because this program is viewed nationally and internationally, for that matter, and because the pope is an international icon, this local story has become a national story because of the implications. i had no idea that cardinal mahony, who was in charge of the l.a. archdioceses, that cardinal, who is no longer in that position, but apparently...
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you know john paul ii's greatest gift was his serenity in suffering. that was the greatest pulpit he ever prepared from. i believe humility is the greatest pulpit that benedict xvi has prepared from. he said to me once benedict things done with humility have the lasting effect have the greatest lasting effect. i believe he knows that in his heart. a courageous, novel decision but he's taken it also strategically in order that we are given a good pope to lead us now into the future. it's a sad moment for us but we now look forward to a new holy father. >> monseigneur anthony figuerdo director of the north american pontifical college. thank you very much, monseigneur. it is coming up on 6:00 p.m. in rome. we saw a beautiful shot of the sun setting in castel gandolfo. we see the long shadows of the early evening coming across st. peter's square. nor norah, i wonder as you watched this for the first time in 600 years, it was an amazing moment in history, what did you think as you thought of this pope leaving the papacy. >> incredibly historic. it was a sho
you know john paul ii's greatest gift was his serenity in suffering. that was the greatest pulpit he ever prepared from. i believe humility is the greatest pulpit that benedict xvi has prepared from. he said to me once benedict things done with humility have the lasting effect have the greatest lasting effect. i believe he knows that in his heart. a courageous, novel decision but he's taken it also strategically in order that we are given a good pope to lead us now into the future. it's a sad...
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john paul said no, i need you here. pope john paul ii died and then he became pope. benedict is a far shyer man, he's a gentle man, he's far more than intellectual. he never sucked in the oxygen of the crowd. he at times, ren sant. since he announced his abdication, i have been struck by how much he relieved he looks. he actually ad lib when he got up there. when i looked at his prepared text. heed a lib an aline, people say that the church is declining but i see the church as alive, because that crowd was filled with enthusiasm and energy yesterday. you know, you have seen when he met with some priests here in rome about a week ago, he was supposed to deliver a speech about the second vatican -- vatican ii, he was there at the time, that happened 50 years ago. he said no, i can't do that because of my advanced age. 85 has become his excuse to be more casual if you will and he said, no, i'll sit here and chat with you. he talked with 46 minutes without a note about what went on 50 years ago. so, clearly, his mind and those who know him and those who read his writings
john paul said no, i need you here. pope john paul ii died and then he became pope. benedict is a far shyer man, he's a gentle man, he's far more than intellectual. he never sucked in the oxygen of the crowd. he at times, ren sant. since he announced his abdication, i have been struck by how much he relieved he looks. he actually ad lib when he got up there. when i looked at his prepared text. heed a lib an aline, people say that the church is declining but i see the church as alive, because...
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paul ii's ilniz. and i think it's much more important to have a vital individual there to carry on as pope, so i think the pope made what i think will now be a precedent-setting decision. >> i think there's no doubt in that. with the advances in medical technology, if they could continue to essentially live out their lives as pope. so somebody we'll be discussing in the coming days. i want to switch gears and talk about the state of the union. glen rush from politico writing that it will be less of a olive branch. if that's the strategy, what do you think of it? do you think it's the time what most americans seen -- the time is right for the president to push hard? >> well, you know, they always ask the question, the state of the union is, fill in the blank. i think the state of the union is strong, but the state of economy is weak. we have too many people looking for jobs and too many people who have given up looking for jobs. he never menned -- so let's get together, put people back to work. he can
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paul ii, as well. the question of the pedophile scandals, the ongoing financial problems or complications or scandals of the vatican bank, which had a new president appointed on this last friday. obviously, there's a lot of talk about the changing nature of the catholic church. today, only one in four catholics lives in europe. most live in north america, south america, asia and africa. so, really, it's going to be a time for the church to redefine itself looking towards those areas where its numbers are growing. christi? >> going to be interesting to see if they choose a pope that is european or perhaps of another heritage. thank you, ben wedemen, we appreciate you bringing us the latest from rome there. >>> coming up in our 8:00 hour, we'll look at the intrigue and the secrecy in the church, as well as hollywood's obsession with the vatican. >>> so, i want to get you to washington now. take a look at this live picture of one beautiful sunrise. good morning to all of you waking up in that in d.c. and
paul ii, as well. the question of the pedophile scandals, the ongoing financial problems or complications or scandals of the vatican bank, which had a new president appointed on this last friday. obviously, there's a lot of talk about the changing nature of the catholic church. today, only one in four catholics lives in europe. most live in north america, south america, asia and africa. so, really, it's going to be a time for the church to redefine itself looking towards those areas where its...
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john paul ii made a conscience decision to die in public. not to say look at me, look at me conforming myself to the passion and death and resurrection of jesus christ. benedict xvi has made a decision that the church needs something that he cannot give so he should get out of the way. he should retire into the background. that, as ann just indicated and liz mentioned and i mentioned and he mentioned, is another way to bear the cross of christ. and i think it was a very strikingly personal last statement to the church. i'm not leaving you. and thank you for not leaving me. >> we heard the loud applause there, the pope was delivering the message in spanish, the church has seen growth in latin america, seen growth in africa, leading to questions, father, about his success so, whether it could be someone who is from africa, from latin america, maybe even dare we say, north america. >> could well be. the church certainly has shifted, as you say, it's suffering in western europe, yet there are 61 cardinals from europe. the college of cardinals th
john paul ii made a conscience decision to die in public. not to say look at me, look at me conforming myself to the passion and death and resurrection of jesus christ. benedict xvi has made a decision that the church needs something that he cannot give so he should get out of the way. he should retire into the background. that, as ann just indicated and liz mentioned and i mentioned and he mentioned, is another way to bear the cross of christ. and i think it was a very strikingly personal last...
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will he be on the order of a john the xxiii, will it be a john paul ii who knew how to deal geo politically with the modern world in terms of poland and the communist world at the same time dealing with the internal problems of the church. and yet, we're also seeing ancient tradition here. as well as an ancient pope who was unable to perform as he had hoped. >> we see that final wave, it seems, from pope benedict and those who have been so close to him over the eight years of his papacy and the applause by, again, members of his household and he is giving them his blessing and you see on his right hand, the fisherman's ring, it is cast for each and every pope, and when they cease to be pope, as he will at 2:00 this afternoon eastern time, and you see that traditional kissing of the ring, it will be taken and a silver hammer will be taken to it and it will be destroyed because that is also the papal seal. so this extraordinary moment in history, using the former joseph ratzinger who will be within hours be pope emeritus, getting into the car for this short ride to the helipad leaving the gro
will he be on the order of a john the xxiii, will it be a john paul ii who knew how to deal geo politically with the modern world in terms of poland and the communist world at the same time dealing with the internal problems of the church. and yet, we're also seeing ancient tradition here. as well as an ancient pope who was unable to perform as he had hoped. >> we see that final wave, it seems, from pope benedict and those who have been so close to him over the eight years of his papacy...
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benedict was the intellectual architect of john paul's papacy for 20 years. so in terms of substance, broad vision for the church, the two were clearly this lock step. but in terms of personality, john paul had a raw sort of freak of nature charisma that took the world by storm. benedict has always been a bit more of an acquired taste. widely admired for the keenness of his intellect. and when i've covered his foreign trips, what's interesting is that he often plays best as a cultural critic. a man who engaged in broad trajectories. doesn't generate the same kind of wild enthusiasm at the grass roots, of course, as john paul. >> certainly i can tell that from some of the visits i've done. the real enthusiasm for john paul, a first time pope had con cost to communist cuba and he was incredibly received. i polled pope benedict last year cuba and you could see that he was also very warmly received, but didn't generate the kind of adulation, if you like, the kind of mass cult following that his predecessor between. and from what i understand, it was that trip tha
benedict was the intellectual architect of john paul's papacy for 20 years. so in terms of substance, broad vision for the church, the two were clearly this lock step. but in terms of personality, john paul had a raw sort of freak of nature charisma that took the world by storm. benedict has always been a bit more of an acquired taste. widely admired for the keenness of his intellect. and when i've covered his foreign trips, what's interesting is that he often plays best as a cultural critic. a...
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martha: at that time obviously the legacy of sphoap john paul was so -- the legacy of pope john paul was so huge. some those would be a transitional pope before the next person was ready to take over. we have a lot to go over with all of this in the course of the next couple hours. in the meantime we want to bring you this breaking news and fill you in on this situation unfolding in a courthouse in wilmington, delaware where we just heard shots have been fired. police are confirming there are several injuries in this case. the building is on lockdown. some people are still inside that building. we have a crew en route there. we'll bring you the latest information as soon as it becomes available. another day, another shooting story. the los angeles police department is offering a $1 million reward for information that would lead to the capture of a former police officer. christopher dorner accused of murdering three people in a rampage last week and included in those deaths is a police officer. here is video that shows dorner during this police training. we have not seen much of this
martha: at that time obviously the legacy of sphoap john paul was so -- the legacy of pope john paul was so huge. some those would be a transitional pope before the next person was ready to take over. we have a lot to go over with all of this in the course of the next couple hours. in the meantime we want to bring you this breaking news and fill you in on this situation unfolding in a courthouse in wilmington, delaware where we just heard shots have been fired. police are confirming there are...
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that was the theme of john paul ii. it's the theme of benedict xvi, and it's going to be a very interesting ride into the rest of the 21st century. >> thank you for your wisdom, and john garvey, thank you for joining us today. we really appreciate that. >> thank you very much. >> and looking ahead to the next 24 hours, the president planning to pivot back to the economy in tomorrow night's state of the yoon. we'll get a preview from the man who knows exactly what's going on behind the scenes at the white house. right away former white house communications director, speechwriter, don bair joining us next. this is $100,000. we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much. i appreciate it. i'll be right back. they didn't take a dime. how much in fees does your bank take to watch your money? if your bank takes more money than a stranger, you need an ally. ally bank. your money needs an ally. [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insuranc
that was the theme of john paul ii. it's the theme of benedict xvi, and it's going to be a very interesting ride into the rest of the 21st century. >> thank you for your wisdom, and john garvey, thank you for joining us today. we really appreciate that. >> thank you very much. >> and looking ahead to the next 24 hours, the president planning to pivot back to the economy in tomorrow night's state of the yoon. we'll get a preview from the man who knows exactly what's going on...
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we saw during john paul's reign that he played a central role in the collapse of european communism by inspiring the solidarity movement in poland. the people's power movement in the philippines that brought down the marxist regime would never have happened without the political involvement of the catholic church. scholars these days are writing books about the revenge of god, that religion is making a comeback as a political player. two-thirds of the 1.2 billion catholics in the world today live outside the west, and most live in societies where religion is critically important, so, yeah, i would say there's still some gas left in the church's political gas tank. >> john, real quickly, only a couple of seconds left here, but what do you know specifically in regards to what they are looking for for a pope? stances on abortion, same-sex marriage, that kind of thing. >> reporter: well, all these cardinals have been appointed by john paul and benedict so they are all in agreement on the main. of course they are looking for a hole guy but three things quickly, one, somebody with a global v
we saw during john paul's reign that he played a central role in the collapse of european communism by inspiring the solidarity movement in poland. the people's power movement in the philippines that brought down the marxist regime would never have happened without the political involvement of the catholic church. scholars these days are writing books about the revenge of god, that religion is making a comeback as a political player. two-thirds of the 1.2 billion catholics in the world today...
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. >> he shrugged and said compared to john paul ii, i do not know i am up to this. he has done well for almost eight years. gretzky -- it is expected the vatican will hold a conclave to select a new pope before easter. >> there is a lot of speculation about whether the next leader of the church will be younger or maybe from a developing country. >> more than 1 billion people identify as catholic. maybe another surprise is in store when the cardinals elect his successor. >> members of the archdiocese will be paying close attention to the vatican. for more on that, we're joined from cathedral mary our queen in north baltimore. >> baltimore's tarja. that -- archbishop is commending the pope. by recognizing his limitations. many are talking about who would be best suited to succeed the probe. >> i do not think it would be an american. >> the pope is to be aunifin unifying figure. >> he believes the next pope may be from a developing part of the world. >> the church is growing leaps and bounds. in africa as well as latin america. and head the areas -- these are the areas
. >> he shrugged and said compared to john paul ii, i do not know i am up to this. he has done well for almost eight years. gretzky -- it is expected the vatican will hold a conclave to select a new pope before easter. >> there is a lot of speculation about whether the next leader of the church will be younger or maybe from a developing country. >> more than 1 billion people identify as catholic. maybe another surprise is in store when the cardinals elect his successor....
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as of 2001, he persuaded or pope john paul decided that all those cases would now come to his office. so from 2001 to 2005, he saw every case. so he is the most knowledgeable person in the world about these issues. >> so what happened to these cases now? >> it's a very good question. i think it's the fundamental question for the church, because it's clear that these are crimes. they're not since, they're crimes. and they've also been covered up in a rather methodical way by the church around the world. >> your research took almost two years. and in your research, are these isolated incidents or is it habitual within the church? >> i think what you see is obviously not every priest is a pedophile. in fact, they're a rather small percentage of priests. but what you do see is patterns that emerge all over the world. for a long time, the vatican said oh, this was an american problem. but now we see this problem cropping up in australia, in germany, in brussels, in ireland, where it's been huge, in italy. so what you see in these -- you know, what you see is patterns. and the patterns are
as of 2001, he persuaded or pope john paul decided that all those cases would now come to his office. so from 2001 to 2005, he saw every case. so he is the most knowledgeable person in the world about these issues. >> so what happened to these cases now? >> it's a very good question. i think it's the fundamental question for the church, because it's clear that these are crimes. they're not since, they're crimes. and they've also been covered up in a rather methodical way by the...
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>> well, i think he sees the papacy very much in continuity of john paul ii. they were both men of the council. they were at vatican 2 and contributed and i think both saw an attempt to interpret vatican 2 properly. i would say that's the major contribution of pope benedict. he wanted to read vatican 2 as a an evangelical council, a council to get the message of the faith out to the wider world and i think in koont knewty with john paul and that's probably the major legacy. >> father, this will kick off sort of the ultimate insider political battle if you will. i can think of nothing less than transparent of the election. it's a cardinal sin to discuss it an they're told i guess going to hell to talk about what happens in that room. >> wow. >> i wonder if you could just take for sort of the laymen and women out there for the process. what is going to unfold in the week and months ahead to elect a new pope? >> of course, this is very unusual. we are not dealing with the death of a pope followed by a period of mourning and a number offer is moans and masses that
>> well, i think he sees the papacy very much in continuity of john paul ii. they were both men of the council. they were at vatican 2 and contributed and i think both saw an attempt to interpret vatican 2 properly. i would say that's the major contribution of pope benedict. he wanted to read vatican 2 as a an evangelical council, a council to get the message of the faith out to the wider world and i think in koont knewty with john paul and that's probably the major legacy. >>...
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. >> as i said about john paul, they came to see him. benedi benedict, they came to hear him. i think that will be his legacy. >> reporter: when the pope resigns at the end of the month, he'll continue to live the rest of his life at the vatican. some time in march the cardinals will gather to choose his successor. reporting live here in san jose, bob redell, nbc bay area news. >>> in the meantime, archbishop salvatore cordileone just announced this statement, quote, on behalf of the priests, religious and lay faithful of the archdiocese of san francisco, i express our deep gratitude to pope benedict xvi for his lifetime of tireless and self-ness service to the church. may god bless him and may god guide the college of cardinals as they choose his successor. >> on that subject, with the surprising resignation announcement coming today, vatican outsiders say they believe cardinal from ghana. is a spokesman for the church's social conscience. terkson would become the first black pope. also on the list of replacements mark uelett of the vatican who is head of the congregation of
. >> as i said about john paul, they came to see him. benedi benedict, they came to hear him. i think that will be his legacy. >> reporter: when the pope resigns at the end of the month, he'll continue to live the rest of his life at the vatican. some time in march the cardinals will gather to choose his successor. reporting live here in san jose, bob redell, nbc bay area news. >>> in the meantime, archbishop salvatore cordileone just announced this statement, quote, on...
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he became pope in 2005 after the death of john paul ii. there is no information as to when a conclave to elect a new pope will begin though it will not happen until after the pope's resignation date. the last pope to resign was way back in the 1200s actually major headline out of rome. pope benedict xvi is resigning. we'll have much more on this coming throughout the morning. >>> talk about our weather now from mississippi to maine. it will be a day of cleaning up after mother nature. the deep south took a direct hit from a tornado on sunday. at the same time, the northeast is still digging out after a blizzard dumped as much as three feet of snow. what a mess up there. and it will still be kind of canadiansy the rest of the week too, right? >> well, potentially. have you to wonder because so far this winter, we have abeen kind of just getting by. >> skirting it. >> it has been very close. you have to wonder when mother nature will deliver one. it looks like a few chances for winter weather later this week. for this morning, just some rain
he became pope in 2005 after the death of john paul ii. there is no information as to when a conclave to elect a new pope will begin though it will not happen until after the pope's resignation date. the last pope to resign was way back in the 1200s actually major headline out of rome. pope benedict xvi is resigning. we'll have much more on this coming throughout the morning. >>> talk about our weather now from mississippi to maine. it will be a day of cleaning up after mother nature....
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. >> wendy: pope john paul ii was very ill and stayed in. do you think there is something else? >> there may very well be. but part of the idea of the pope is the pope shows us how to live and how to die. it might have been the unprecedented challenges this particular pope has had to face. >> wendy: there is a lot of talk about the pope, the next one coming from south america or south africa. what effect would that have on the church? >> it would be wonderful. i suspect it will not happen. i think the conclave might argue there are challenges in north america, as well as europe, and they need a pope that can be focused. >> wendy: so you think the pope will come from europe? >> i suspect the pope will be from italy. italy. >> wendy: really. the church has been harmed with sex scandals, and is there an opportunity here to change that image? >> i do think so. i think we'll choose a pope that is extremely conservative, and i think they're going to choose somebody with great leadership skills, management skills, and somebody who would know how to handle this. >> wendy: who is your pi
. >> wendy: pope john paul ii was very ill and stayed in. do you think there is something else? >> there may very well be. but part of the idea of the pope is the pope shows us how to live and how to die. it might have been the unprecedented challenges this particular pope has had to face. >> wendy: there is a lot of talk about the pope, the next one coming from south america or south africa. what effect would that have on the church? >> it would be wonderful. i suspect...
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virtually all these cardinals who are picked either by pope benedict or by pope john paul, i believe, somebody correct me if i'm wrong, the average age is somewhere in the 70s, low 70s. there aren't if to really drive your metaphor into the ground, a lot of blue state sort of cardinals in that list, and so there are not a lot of obviously progressive candidates on the list of potential popes. i don't think progressive conservative, however, is the right optic. i think the real question is when you get someone elected who actually is open to change and dialogue on some of these issues, on the all male celibate priesthood, if not on women priests. birth control is kind of a separate issue. the church ares until this contraception fight over the obama plan, really hasn't preached very much about it. it's not only the faithful who let it go. it's really the church itself who sort of accept that. there just aren't a lot of catholic families of 12 kids anymore in most of the west, and increasingly, not in the third world either. >> e.j., i want to bring in our panel here in new york, and be
virtually all these cardinals who are picked either by pope benedict or by pope john paul, i believe, somebody correct me if i'm wrong, the average age is somewhere in the 70s, low 70s. there aren't if to really drive your metaphor into the ground, a lot of blue state sort of cardinals in that list, and so there are not a lot of obviously progressive candidates on the list of potential popes. i don't think progressive conservative, however, is the right optic. i think the real question is when...
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. >>> tina fey and paul rud. >>> john lennon's widow, yoko ono is celebrating her 80th birthday. >>> tina fey co-stars with paul rud in admission. she plaids a princeston university admissions officer who finds out her son -- who finds her son she gave up for adoption. >> i liked the story. >> admission is out in theaters march 2 2-7d. >>> golden globe winner maggie smith is grateful downton abbey has a huge following i don't it is frustrating. i always see things i would like to do differently. >> hollywood has movie screenings and exhibitions ahead of the academy awards. >>> and just in time for oscar week argo is out on dvd tomorrow. the film is based on a suck he isful secret mission to rescue six americans from iran during the hostage crisis. >>> also out on dvd anna i didn't know na -- >>> good morning and thank you for watching wusa9 at 5:00 a.m. happy president's day. i'm andrea roane. >>> traffic is going to be a little bit light. >> we can blame it on howard. >> they are so cold right? >> it is really cold up there. >> we have teens this morning. tomorrow we'll be back. >>
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they said yes but for more than thirty years because he was the closest collaborators of john paul the second and this you know john paul disabling was much more interested in in the preaching and went around in the world to make his mission to people than today to get the well developed in itself so that my children did that it means treasury was left to the county knows they can do nothing or will sort of course one who won't be so obvious main collaborators because you know the problems with the church they run debts to you. you're going to be for the most not peaceful keeping you know the point about for example the bank or the bet you get or are. you sneak a bank was back to bed to about twenty years ago would go with it was a big scandal with a we don't need to be an attorney or bank and just through side himself in london and then from then not only was involved all kind of scandals would we. you know i'm sure if you know answers without any. and it brought more on the problem you know even as you said we were going to talk about the things we did laundering your money because y
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paul ii who reigned as pope for 25 years. >> he had a hard act to follow. >> a very difficult act. >> reporter: father james marten is editor at large of the magazine "america". >> he is the beloved professor. >> reporter: benedict was a shy man with a great reputation in the church. a theologian a strong advocate for a return to tradition in the face of the modern world. but these were hard years for the catholic church and the pope. there was the agony of the sex abuse scandal in several countries. timothy dolan reflected on the toll of it all. >> when he speaks about the church, when he speaks about christian life they are the most noble, loving, the most elevated sentiments you can have. and for him to see the troubles, the corruption, the scandals that have always inflicted members of the church that's got to weigh on him. >> reporter: another scandal, his personal butler stole a trove of his private correspondence and leaked it to the media. >> he was an incredible shepherd and just someone i would look to as one of the great leaders in our church. >> reporter: and now he is le
paul ii who reigned as pope for 25 years. >> he had a hard act to follow. >> a very difficult act. >> reporter: father james marten is editor at large of the magazine "america". >> he is the beloved professor. >> reporter: benedict was a shy man with a great reputation in the church. a theologian a strong advocate for a return to tradition in the face of the modern world. but these were hard years for the catholic church and the pope. there was the agony...
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he was not john paul ii. john paul was such an immense figure. is that a fair point mr. moody is making? >> well, i think it is a fair point. i have nothing but the greatest admiration for john, and i think pope benedict knew that. what comes through about pope benedict is the humility in one interview he gave, long book interview, where he mentioned the possibility of resigning but he said i'm convinced there are great popes and small popes, and he was talking about john paul ii as a great pope, and himself as small pope, which is also strange because he is obviously a great intellectual. but he knew he didn't have either the energy or, if you will, the pizazz of john paul ii, the media satisfy iy. but what he wad was very genuine. he is a month in love with god, and a very humble one. i noticed on the trip to the u.s., and you see the stadium filled, and john paul would enjoy those as much as an actor enjoys a big crowd, and benedict was a little bit almost embarrassed. but there was something beautiful and endear about that. >> there were missteps and miscues along th
he was not john paul ii. john paul was such an immense figure. is that a fair point mr. moody is making? >> well, i think it is a fair point. i have nothing but the greatest admiration for john, and i think pope benedict knew that. what comes through about pope benedict is the humility in one interview he gave, long book interview, where he mentioned the possibility of resigning but he said i'm convinced there are great popes and small popes, and he was talking about john paul ii as a...
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i want to say thank you, pope john paul ii . the reason why, as i would say thanks to your predecessor pope john paul ii. this is it a evangelical and not a catholic who appreciates the firm convictions of the catholic church and popes who decipeded that the purpose of the church is not a mere thermometer reflecting the culture of whatever the world happens to believe in the given moment, but believes that the church is to be the thermostat that can read the culture that is it prevalent in the world, but whose purpose is to adjust the temperature of the culture to what it ought to be . for that, i say thank you for faithful service to the bible, and to the traditions much gold's people. a good thing. well, scientist say that the meteor that streak would across the sky in russia on morning exploded with a force equivulent . atomic here's what the leader of russia said. those are not metorites falling, it is the americans trying out a new weapon. really? i think he must think that we have a great big bubble gum machine that we wil
i want to say thank you, pope john paul ii . the reason why, as i would say thanks to your predecessor pope john paul ii. this is it a evangelical and not a catholic who appreciates the firm convictions of the catholic church and popes who decipeded that the purpose of the church is not a mere thermometer reflecting the culture of whatever the world happens to believe in the given moment, but believes that the church is to be the thermostat that can read the culture that is it prevalent in the...
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i covered both john paul 2 rii benedict xvi. john paul would wear his heart on the sleeve. he talked about his mind and his heart all the time. benedict as always been much more reluctant to get that glimpse of what's going on inside. i think it's part of the man's humility, but he wanted to to keep himself out of the story. today however he set that normal reserve aside and he gave us a remarkable look at what was in his mind and his heart as he reached this momentous decision. >> and i can't help but think of all the things that he obliquely referred to, and when he said it was time for a more vigorous both physically and mentally person to carry this church into the future and also to deal with the things that he referred to in his speech. you were talking just this week to a journalist who has written all about the vatican and who heard the tales right from the butler. >> one of the things that he says in his book is that he felt that the pope was surrounded by people who were trying for thwart him actively or accidentally, trying to thwart the kind of reform efforts he
i covered both john paul 2 rii benedict xvi. john paul would wear his heart on the sleeve. he talked about his mind and his heart all the time. benedict as always been much more reluctant to get that glimpse of what's going on inside. i think it's part of the man's humility, but he wanted to to keep himself out of the story. today however he set that normal reserve aside and he gave us a remarkable look at what was in his mind and his heart as he reached this momentous decision. >> and i...